{"id":45,"date":"2013-08-16T16:25:38","date_gmt":"2013-08-16T15:25:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/?p=45"},"modified":"2018-12-16T16:27:13","modified_gmt":"2018-12-16T16:27:13","slug":"how-much-rake-do-you-pay","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/how-much-rake-do-you-pay\/","title":{"rendered":"How much rake do you pay?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>You most likely use HoldemManager or PokerTracker and know the number\n pretty well. This means you know your personal rake. But what about the\n rake other players pay? What\u2019s the average rake a player pays? Do you \npay \u201cmore\u201d or \u201cless\u201d than the average player, and why?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When looking at the total numbers \u2013 that\u2019s something many poker player especially recreational players do not notice \u2013 rake has a huge impact on your winrate.<br>Yes, it\u2019s just a couple of cents you pay from time to time when you win a pot, you might say, but these small amounts end up getting huge after hours of play.<br>In the following blog entry i would like to take a closer look at No Limit Texas Hold\u2019em $0.50\/$1 and answer some of the above questions.<br>The numbers below are taken on 17.July.2013 from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rakeatpoker.com\/data.php?stake=0.50\/1&amp;player=6&amp;ong=5&amp;type=2&amp;img=nl25sh\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"When looking at the total numbers \u2013 that\u2019s something many poker player especially recreational players do not notice \u2013 rake has a huge impact on your winrate.\nYes, it\u2019s just a couple of cents you pay from time to time when you win a pot, you might say, but these small amounts end up getting huge after hours of play.\nIn the following blog entry i would like to take a closer look at No Limit Texas Hold\u2019em $0.50\/$1 and answer some of the above questions.\nThe numbers below are taken on 17.July.2013 from RakeAtPoker.com. Given these numbers, what do we see? (opens in a new tab)\">RakeAtPoker.com<\/a>. Given these numbers, what do we see?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No Limit Hold\u2019em $0.50\/$1 (17. Jul 2013)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20140729102040im_\/http:\/\/www.hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/rake1.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>After 100 hands of play, the average rake payed at FullTiltPoker is \nabout $7.39. This means, regardless if you win or lose 100 hands cost \nyou about $7.39 on average. That\u2019s not that bad when compared to the \n$10.15 at Pacific Poker (888). But you can get a cheaper play at example\n given PartyPoker ($6.95) or PokerStars ($6.48).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When just looking at total rake in $\/100 it would be stupid to play \nat FullTiltPoker or Pacific you might think. Well the total rake doesn\u2019t\n capture the whole picture. It might be worth to pay more rake when \nthere\u2019s a chance to win more money.<br>\nThat\u2019s where the average pot size comes into play. iPoker seem to have \nthe highest average pot size in our comparison ($18.65)&nbsp; followed by \nPartyPoker ($17.34). PokerStars has an average pot size of $11.04. In \nother words: The average pot you win at PokerStars is just 60% of an \naverage pot at iPoker. The games at iPoker seem to be soft while the \ngames at PokerStars seem to be tight.<br>\nPokerStars, which had the lowest total rake in $\/100 and thus looked \nappealing to play at in the first place, doesn\u2019t look that promising \nanymore. Paying less rake is just a consequence of smaller potsizes, a \nsmaller amount you can win.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lets continue our path and express the rake as percentage of Pot. This seem to be natural, because this is where rake is generated and payed from. The conversion of \u201ctotal rake payed\u201d into percentage of Pot is shown in column 4. In other words:\u00a0 PartyPoker earns about 2.41% of every pot. iPoker earns about 2.31% of every pot.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 so what\u2019s the verdict? Play $0.5\/$1 6-max at PartyPoker and iPoker only?<br>Again, that\u2019s not the whole truth. All these poker rooms offer some kind of rakeback. This may come in form of a reload bonus, direct cash, or loyality points. This can have a huge impact on the final score.<br>In the end it\u2019s up to your personal taste if you ask me. Play where you feel comfortable, where you can use great tools like the HoldemManager Table Scanner to find players that play worse than you. Long term this will have a much higher impact on your winrate than the rake.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Of course, this is just a recent picture for No Limit Hold\u2019em $0.50\/$1 6-max taken on 17.July.2013. The numbers constantly change, but the tendency is visible, and you should visit <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rakeatpoker.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Lets continue our path and express the rake as percentage of Pot. This seem to be natural, because this is where rake is generated and payed from. The conversion of \u201ctotal rake payed\u201d into percentage of Pot is shown in column 4. In other words:\u00a0 PartyPoker earns about 2.41% of every pot. iPoker earns about 2.31% of every pot.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 so what\u2019s the verdict? Play $0.5\/$1 6-max at PartyPoker and iPoker only?\nAgain, that\u2019s not the whole truth. All these poker rooms offer some kind of rakeback. This may come in form of a reload bonus, direct cash, or loyality points. This can have a huge impact on the final score.\nIn the end it\u2019s up to your personal taste if you ask me. Play where you feel comfortable, where you can use great tools like the HoldemManager Table Scanner to find players that play worse than you. Long term this will have a much higher impact on your winrate than the rake.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Of course, this is just a recent picture for No Limit Hold\u2019em $0.50\/$1 6-max taken on 17.July.2013. The numbers constantly change, but the tendency is visible, and you should visit RakeAtPoker.com from time to time to re-evaluate the numbers. (opens in a new tab)\">RakeAtPoker.com<\/a> from time to time to re-evaluate the numbers.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You most likely use HoldemManager or PokerTracker and know the number pretty well. This means you know your personal rake. But what about the rake other players pay? What\u2019s the average rake a player pays? Do you pay \u201cmore\u201d or \u201cless\u201d than the average player, and why? When looking at the total numbers \u2013 that\u2019s<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/how-much-rake-do-you-pay\/\" class=\"more-link\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"cybocfi_hide_featured_image":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=45"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":47,"href":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45\/revisions\/47"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=45"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=45"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hhdealer.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=45"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}